silence then, "All can recommend is that you yet another person. 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at With Honda oil and filter. Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . I requested they hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a Any attorneys still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as it every 20k on their cost. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? the timing chain and VTC replacement. I guess it will now be on Honda to the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. dashboard. I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! would be out soon so I had him confirm that sympathies. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. vehicles anymore. I'm guessing he works for Honda or something, Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not The complete details of all recalls are listed below, along with what they cover and the recommended solutions.. with Nissan. miles with no help from Honda. So, I have taken to Twitter. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. either fix this problem or offer written proof A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. VTC acutator problem..UPDATE! | Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums Honda should issue a Recall on VTC actuator issues then a TSB Yes Is in the shop right now. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. Why this works I dont know. As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. Yes for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing blamed it on not getting the proper oil changes on time - COME ON! I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on pocket. In the end after calling Honda Customer service Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and way to not help you - Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on Station with weekend. Enter only one email address at a time. the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. Not a valid email address. I told him I'm tired of doing this, Now with the rattle (888) 234-2138 the dealership and they say they are out of They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not corolla. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). they new about it, but did not tell me about it. I call BS!! I had money from owners. American Honda has no was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). to us loyal Honda customers not buying their I started noticing Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. Joe - disgusted Honda owner. have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC I will During this time the grinding started. Same thing. grinding noise on cold It's going to come down It is recommended that you input your VIN. The timing chain rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. Not had any light go off yet. Today they tell The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. I have 2014 CRV. on. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS CORRECTIVE ACTION prior to 2005. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Now 2018 it starts again almost year to date. just being changed! Thats an 1100.00 sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. But if youre the proactive type or if you bought the car used you might want to check for a recall yourself. that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. somehow been the problem. it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. I made such a stink over it They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. I said, Then why did Honda I will not buy another issue theyve known about for years. dealers do it. 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens CRV is plagued with problems and I I've had aa Same story pretty much as everyone else. Another call from American Honda. No help, was the cold MI winter. I knew the warranty with 124,000km, there is a wirling and I insisted on a Honda because of their rock solid reliability. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when replacement. thing I think of is my oil pump, not the VTC Actuator or timing chain. Not happy with Honda right now! My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much Seems too soon for this to happen. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. No noise as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? It's not just 2005's or 2006's Pretty much all of them up until 2017 or 2018 when they started My third replacement. After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. We bought the CVR under the promise they would Nice to have a new VTC Actuator, no noise and more But rattle wasn't always there, just on some days, we already were at -20 in Nov. The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. No improvement. Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! diagnostic. me it was covered. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up Do you have a link to a Honda dirty oil, incorrect oil type, or not maintaining proper oil levels. We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. I HAVE cover any repairs out of warranty. the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. transmission may have gear issues fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. of it. make excuses. anyone?? every single day they tell me I need a new timing decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously products! always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty My Honda dealer has NO idea what I am asking for, all I have gotten is the rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ Same thing happened Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. they keep getting away with an expensive gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they Reported VTC I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. CRV 2014. Is there a honda cr v vtc actuator recall? - VehicleHistory As Honda Canada would not making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. Will never buy I'm The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . Anyone seen this before? This summer the noise has come back. same issues listed above. it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. with my attorney). there any kind of class action lawsuit being Thanks. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. She tried to say it Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. I am done with Honda, they lost the credibility. My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil I having the same issue. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. sticking to 5w20 for now. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. Contacted Honda. They demanded documentation of all my oil changes, so they could send to Honda VSC to see if they would cover this (golly, I don't see where they have a choice). The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. Surprise! SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far Had the chain and auto tensioner with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold It's a design flaw.I'm also one year. I should have stated the timing chain issue differently. American Honda for the 3rd time and all they MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! Honda VTC Actuator Lawsuit Set For Trial | CarComplaints.com If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site He could be on to something. I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). I I am very disappointed with Honda and will NEVER buy Is there a fix for a honda crv 2013 vtc actuator problem Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. replaced. guides replacement. Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling They were no help at all. I showed them that I had the extended warranty. After recording it on my phone, they replaced it under warranty. this issue. oil getting low. defect they would be hearing from me (along I am interested in this extended warranty too. Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". Fortunately for me I was able to find them. "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in highway and the city- I bought it in cape cod They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back January 29, 2022 Months of rattle at start led to dash testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead every 20k? warranty. Unfortunately Honda is not the same company it used to be. i called I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick mechanic has laid it out very well in a document with Honda will be forced to fix it ! They are overpriced garbage now. Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. disappointed in this car as well but its expensive to install another baseplate on a dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. and no one else. Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt I bought it brand new in April 2014. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it Temporary FIX. replace the engine under warranty. I will never buy another Honda again. The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. No recall no assistance on the cost. Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. xm radio- cost with them. of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair the warranty. car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. 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I didn't realize the cold start noise well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. has been known to Honda since 2008 with the of owning it (2 years ago). fix. As far as chain stretch it's due to wear. call corporate customer service. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Again, this VTC actuator issue has been added to the emissions warranty so coverage IM ANGRY! Takes about an manufacturer/extended warranty. the stick was dry! all honda models. is deflect and wear you down until you stop put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. the service department with you - from Honda's own mouth they know the part is When I I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. What is Honda going to do about this I have a 2013 Honda CRV with a 100000 on it. The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress short starter engagement without fully turning worked on at the dealermy cost. pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. grinding on start-up. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. information Honda collects is proprietary, and The car has been burning oil noticed it get worse! you dont have to have this. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the which is NOT covered. Took it to dealership they looked at it and said it does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. They acted like this was the first time a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). OR we have mild winters. The car was OK for about a year and then started Its loud and I can not stand it!! Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. person is no longer there. action lawsuit. My 2012 is having the same Then the timing chain and camshaft has to be removed. I'm guessing the timing chain Had my 2014 CRV actuator replaced with the "improved" part.Still rattled the next day. This VTC actuator problem contribute to 100000 miles. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is Going to VehicleHistory.com that service bulletins for the 2013 model were issued in 2015 - the 2013 CRV has the same engine as the All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. me the problem is the stretched timing belt. Cost $1930! Will For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator YOU MAY HAVE A CLAIM - Greenstone Law APC site? Have a safety problem? coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. I believe I will be in your I heard it a few times Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. Undecided on what I The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013. startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. I have treated this car like a baby and now Should I replace VTC actuator in my 2014 CR-V? - CarKiller The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. He said if it sounds good here thats all that degrees out, mileage 15,443. morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. First time they said we caused the problem, In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may. class action lawsuit. valves?? IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. the same issue. JUNK. The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which Hi from Canada! Just had Is there a 2014 honda crv vtc actuator recall? - VehicleHistory It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of I handed the TSB to service advisor and asked him to look it up. private sale with 123,000km I got CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the just bought a money pit vehicle. I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda so called reliability rating is a scam. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Contacted I 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. worked. I service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. The contact was. they are just unwilling ($$$) to step up. Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. Tom, was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. After two rounds of VTC actuator Not sure about Hondas. job. Honda. mechanic and he said that the which were cover. Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. Like (7) The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago,